Posted by Wildbill (richmond-69-72-122-29.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net | 69.72.122.29) on November 02, 2008 at 19:10:53:
In Reply to: Re: Feda Spot Translation Clarification Request (fairly long) - Final part of Area (Chapter 1) posted by satsu on November 02, 2008 at 14:01:00:
Satsu's work completes the picture for Chapter 1 and also tells me where the game is going. Along with this and other research, I have learned this about Feda.
The "emblems" (of Feda) are more than mere titles that can change constantly through the game. The emblem you wear any given moment will affect who joins you, fights for you, and stays with you.
Scenarios will vary and even game endings will change with different emblems. Here they are:
Fedayeen goddess of justice (one ending)
Valkyrie maiden of heaven (same ending as Griffon and Blade eagle)
Griffon sign of proud and prosperity (same ending as Valkyrie and Blade eagle)
Blade Eagle the comrade of lawful fighters (same ending as Valkyrie and Griffon)
Viper the one who trusts nobody and stays neutral (same ending as Phantom and Balrog)
Phantom reaper and bringer of death (same ending as Viper and Balrog)
Balrog servant of the devil (same ending as Phantom and Viper)
Hellhound keeper at Gehennas gate (same ending as Genocide)
Genocide god of chaos and destruction (same ending as Hellhound)
The top group carry "Law" emblems.
The middle group is "Neutral".
The bottom pair are "Chaos".
Recruitable characters are divided into these three categories. Law and chaos characters will not fight side-by-side on your team, but neutral chars will fight alongside anyone. Therefore, as your hero's emblem changes, you will retain/recruit only neutral characters and those that match your general category. Once a character leaves you because of a changing emblem, you will probably lose that fighter's services permanently.
This is an over simplification, but the big difference between Shining Force and Feda is that you don't always need to slay all of the enemies on the screen. In fact, in Feda, if you kill enemies beyond the mission requirements, and you wish to retain a neutral or law emblem, you may slide to Hellhound or Genecide emblems, and lose all of your law teammates.
This is why the script is so confusing and repetitious. You have different endings, people leaving your party, multiple scenarios based on your fighting decisions, delaying tactics, and the like. So, it may be impossible to recruit every single character in the game, in one play-through.
Should be interesting, guys, sorting out the rest of this game!
> > What we're looking for here are attitudes and tones. How does the party feel about the master priest? How does the priest feel about the party? The temple is sealed against Empire strikes, so everyone could remain there and stay safe. But the priest, obviously, has his own agenda. So, does the party shift its posture away from selfish motives and more toward altruism, or does the priest inveigle them into the cause? What is REALLY going down in the master priest's chamber? It's important to the total story evolution, to know.
> >
> >
> >
> > This is lengthy, even with repeats removed, but these
> > passages are critical because they conclude Chapter
> > (Area) 1.
> >
> > They also account for the fate of the Bazel Villagers,
> > provide a new member of the party, and set the tone for
> > the rest of the game (11 more chapters to go).
> >
> > Unfortunately, our translated script is not clear in
> > many of these scenes. Further muddying the water is
> > the possibilty of an alternative (tragic) outcome in Bezel
> > Village. The good outcome (Path 1) rescues the townspeople.
> >
> > The alternative outcome (Path 2) has the Empire
> > overrunning the town, leaving the fate of the
> > residents unknown, for the present, at least.
> >
> > Well,
> >
> >
> > (00000E16)
> > ; l
> > ; _âЂ܂ɂ͂
> >
> > This is a priest walking around
> > in the temple lobby. (Path-1)
> > (Must be? Doesn't sound right.)
> >
> > .TEXT
> > The villagers must be in the temple hall.
> > .ENDT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > (00000E2B)
> > ; 悤䂪_a
> > ; Vt-l܂Ă܂
> >
> > Same man (Path-2)
> >
> > .TEXT
> > This old priest welcomes you to
> > the temple.
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> Welcome to our temple. The senior priest awaits you.
>
> >
> > (00000E6B)
> > ;
> >
> > This is someone blocking a holding area
> > the hero can't enter. (Path-1)
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > .ENDT
> >
> >
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ; ͂₭Vt-l̂Ƃ
> > ; sĂ
> >
> > This is the same person as above. (Path-2)
> >
> > .TEXT
> > Hurry, please get to the priest.
> > .ENDT
> >
> >
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ; ݂Ȃ܂ɉ̂ RJO
> > ; ݂̂ɂĂ܂
> >
> > This is the second person blocking the
> > temple holding area (Path-1)
> >
> > .TEXT
> > I've really had fun these last 3
> > months. Since I've met everyone,
> > I have had a lot of fun.
> > .ENDT
> >
> >
> >
>
> I've been looking forward to meeting you this past three months.
>
>
> > (New Screen)
> > ;
> > ; mĂH
> >
> > This is Ain Speaking.
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> How did you know we would come?
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> >
> > ;
> > ; ̘VtƂl
> > ; ɂ
> >
> > This is the hero speaking.
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > that guy was talking about early.
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> Anyway, let's go see this "senior priest" guy.
>
> >
> > (00000EDF)
> > ;
> > ; t@EXĝڂ-E..
> >
> > This is a person blocking the temple's
> > holding area (Path-2) Never heard of
> > "Faust" up to this point in game.
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > about Faust's spirit...
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> Japanese is garbled so I can't quite make this out reliably, but I'm guessing:
>
> You must be the spirit of Faust the senior priest was talking about--
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ; ꂢ
> > ; Vt-l܂ł
> >
> > Another person in the lower temple.
> >
> > .TEXT
> > Well, see you later. This is the
> > priest's place.
> > .ENDT
> >
> >
>
> No, excuse me. Please, the senior priest is waiting.
>
> >
> > (00000F13)
> > ; ɂΒ鍑R
> > ; ͏o܂
> >
> > Another person blocking way to
> > holding area, sounds odd. (both Path 1 and 2)
> >
> > .TEXT
> > If we let you in here, it would
> > attract the hand of the
> > Imperial Army.
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> Not even the Imperial Army will attack you as long as you stay here.
>
> >
> > (00000F26)
> > ; <$8F510028>̂Ђ܂ɑl
> > ; ĂǂH
> >
> > A question by the stairwat guard... doesn't
> > make sense...
> >
> > .TEXT
> > <$8F510028>Would it be all right for
> > the villagers to be in the
> > inner hall?
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> The villagers are in the inner hall. Why not go see them?
>
> >
> > (00000F43) [NULL]
> > ; Vt-lɉO
> > ; _aĂǂ
> >
> > This is spoken to the guard of the
> > stairway that leads to the master priest.
> >
> > .TEXT
> > Before we meet the priest, would
> > it be all right for me to
> > see the temple a bit more?
> > .ENDT
> >
>
>
> Why not see the temple some more before meeting the senior priest?
>
> >
> > (00000F5E)
> > ; Vt-l͋Ma҂Ă邼
> > ; ɍsH
> >
> > Same guard as above.
> >
> > .TEXT
> > The priest awaits you. Won't you
> > go see him?
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> The senior priest's waiting for you. Will you go see him?
>
> >
> > (00000F77)
> > ; ̏ゾ...
> >
> > The guard points at the steps leading to
> > the master priest - obvious, for once.
> >
> > .TEXT
> > Up here...
> > .ENDT
> >
> >
> >
> > (00000F7E)
> > ; _a݂Ă܂Ȃ
> > ; Ȃׂɂ...
> >
> > The guard of the steps asks for decorum.
> >
> > .TEXT
> > If you return to see the temple,
> > please be as quiet as you can...
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> If you're going sightseeing in the temple, try and do it quietly...
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ;
> > ; ɂĂ...
> >
> > Ain is uncomfortable with the temple, but
> > it could be worded more clearly.
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > places like this...
> > .ENDT
> >
> >
>
> I don't feel too comfortable in places like this...
>
> > (00000FD4)
> > ;
> > ; 悯Ȍɂ
> > ; 悤
> >
> > The master priest commends the party. (Path 1)
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > unnecessary blood was spilled.
> > Great job, guys.
> > .ENDT
>
>
> It seems that thanks to your effects, no unnecessary blood was spilled.
>
> >
> > (00000FF2)
> > ;
> >
> > The master priest's opening comment (path 2),
> > doesn't sound right.
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > place!
> > .ENDT
> >
> >
>
> You've done well to make it here unharmed!
>
> >
> > (00001008)
> > ;
> > ; 킬Ă܂...
> >
> > The hero's response, again... vague. (both paths)
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > We've caused a disturbance...
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> No, we just started a disturbance...
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ;
> > ; -ŁE낤
> >
> > Priest responds - vague, but may fit. (both paths)
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > probably your destiny.
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> What you started was fate.
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ;
> >
> > Hero reticent
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > .ENDT
> >
> >
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ;
> > ; 邪
> >
> > Priest continues... (both paths)
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > the past, but...
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> I see you have experienced your share of suffering in the past.
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ; <$8F6E00_name>
> > ; <$8F571E_pause>
> > ; -ڂĂ
> >
> > Priest speaking, unclear...
> >
> > .TEXT
> > I wonder, what <$8F6E00_name> spoke
> > of when he said...
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> Your name is [Name], correct? I like the look in your [eyes]. (Jp garbled, so I had to guess)
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ; -ڂ ̂炢
> > ; -]Ă邼
> >
> > Priest continues, unclear...
> >
> > .TEXT
> > "Your eyes reflect the
> > hope in these difficult times."
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> Those [eyes] reflect these awful times.
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ;
> > ; 邱Ƃ킩܂H
> >
> > Hero asks a question. Vague...
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > I was talking about?
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> Priest, I am afraid I do not understand what you mean.
>
> > (New Screen)
> > ;
> > ; Ƃ AfEoU[N
> > ; AJfBARmĂ邩H
> >
> > Priest answers, then begans talking about a rebel leader,
> > but question is vague.
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > know of Andera Balzark and
> > the Arcadia Liberation Army?
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> Well, never mind. By the way, do you know of Andera Balzac and the Arcadian Liberation Army?
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ;
> >
> > Hero answers, but vague.
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > Liberation Army, but...
> > .ENDT
> >
> >
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ;
> > ; ͌C `Ăꂢ
> >
> > Priest says to say, "Hi" to rebel leader?
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > greetings to him from his
> > "old man".
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> Pretty much.
>
> > (New Screen)
> > ;
> >
> > Hero says he will.
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > .ENDT
> >
> >
> >
> > (00001104)
> > ;
> >
> > Priest asked Elle [name-17] if (s)he wants to enter.
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> [Name], are you there?
>
> >
> > (0000110F)
> > ;
> >
> > Ellie says yes.
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > .ENDT
> >
> >
> >
> > (00001115)
> > ;
> > ; <$8F6E17_name>Ƃ
> >
> > Is Elle a man or a woman?
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > <$8F6E17_name>.
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> This is my attendant, [Name].
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ; E̕ 䂤Ɏg
> > ; H
> > ; <$8F571E_pause>̑-̕â߂...
> >
> > Is the priest asking if he can help?
> >
> > .TEXT
> > Can I do anything<$8F571E_pause> to help your
> > corps? For peace on this
> > continent...
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> Please use her services as you wish in your corps. For peace on this continent...
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ;
> > ; I͕ł
> > ; `-łȂ
> >
> > Ain sounds negative. (When did he
> > become a crusader for justice?)
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > have anyone in our force
> > except friends of justice!
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> Hold it! We're not a corps, and we're not heroes either!
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ; <$8F6E00_name>
> > ; a-]ƂȂƂ
> > ; ɂ߂Ȃ
> >
> > Ain continues, but this makes no sense!
> >
> > .TEXT
> > <$8F6E00_name> can't just scold us
> > at will, even taking into
> > consideration his love of peace.
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> Don't try to tell [Name] that he's fighting for peace or some other nonsense.
>
> > (New Screen)
> > ;
> > ; т͓A 낤
> > ; ͂͂͂
> >
> > Priest offers a weird reply to a weird comment.
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > So you may call him a
> > 'fellow traveller' on your
> > journey. Hahaha
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> Come now. Call her a fellow traveller, then. Ha ha ha!
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ; <$8F6E09_name><$8F571E_pause>
> > ; O̒j̐܂
> > ; Ă݂Ȃ
> >
> > The priest speaking to Eris,
> > but the translation is odd.
> >
> > .TEXT
> > <$8F6E09_name><$8F571E_pause>
> > see if you and these men can
> > get along together.
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> [Name], see how these men live.
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ; EEƂ
> > ; -𒅂ĵȁI
> >
> > Priest makes another vague observation.
> >
> > .TEXT
> > They may have been called
> > deserters, but now they are no
> > such thing!
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> See what becomes of these men calling themselves deserters!
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ; ...
> > ; ߂Ă݂Ȃ
> >
> > Priest continues... vague.
> >
> > .TEXT
> > And...
> > See everything as it really is.
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> And...see the truth.
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ;
> > ; 키Ƃ͂܂܂Ȃ܂
> >
> > Eris weighs in with her position, but vague.
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > wishes...But I am not well with
> > the fighting.
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> As you command...
> But I am no fighter.
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ;
> > ; ̉-E@łイ
> >
> > Priest opines on Eris's value to the party.
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > with your recovery magic!
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> Your healing magic should be more than enough!
>
> >
> > (00001252)
> > ;
> > ; Rł݂ȂJo
> > ; ͂炫Ȃ
> >
> > Priest speaking, but what does he mean?
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > strength with the liberation
> > army...
> > if you couldn't work with them
> > to restore world peace.
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> Give your all for the Liberation Army for the sake of this world's [garbled].
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ;
> > ; I͐`-ł
> > ; ȂłȂ
> >
> > Ain asking a vague question...
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > be labeled as friends of justice!
> > .ENDT
>
> Hold it! We're not some kind of heroes!
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ; <$8F6E00_name> a
> > ; -]Ȃ
> > ; ɂ߂ȂI
> >
> > Ain continues... strange, as translated...
> >
> > .TEXT
> > What if <$8F6E00_name> arbitrarily
> > bothers us with his desire for
> > world peace!?
> > .ENDT
>
> Don't try to tell [Name] that he's fighting for peace or some other nonsense!
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ;
> > ; 邱Ƃ̂ނƂ
> >
> > Priest speaking, unclear what he means.
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > but you'll just have to enjoy
> > being alive, won't you?
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> Well, that's fine.
> You should enjoy your lives.
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ; EEƂ-
> > ; ܂ɁEꂽ
> > ; 傤낤 ͂͂
> >
> > Priest speaking, may make more sense
> > with a more clear translation, overall.
> >
> > .TEXT
> > Your group was given the label
> > of deserter. You might as well
> > wear it like a medal now. Haha
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> You were branded as deserters. You should wear it like a medal! Ha ha!
>
> >
> > (0000130C)
> > ;
> >
> > Ain speaking... again, vague...
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> You're a real optimist, old man...
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ; ǂEĂȂȂ
> > ; <$8F6E00_name>
> > ; sł
> >
> > Ain commenting, but vague...
> >
> > .TEXT
> > I guess it won't hurt to try it.
> > <$8F6E00_name>.
> > Lets just see what happens.
> > .ENDT
> >
>
> Well, it's not like we have any plans.
> [Name], let's just take things as they come.
>
> >
> > (New Screen)
> > ; IOɂ-邺I
> >
> > Is Ain saying the hero might be special?
> >
> > .TEXT
> > I feel like you might be a lucky
> > charm!
> > .ENDT
> >
> >
>
> I can tell you have a destiny!
>
> > (New Screen)
> > ;
> >
> > The hero speaking, but what does "who"
> > feel? This is the ending comment in
> > the conference with the priest.
> >
> > .TEXT
> >
> > .ENDT
> >
> >
> > With this, the party picks up a new member
> > and is auto-pulled out of Area-1 into Area-2
> > with no reversal.
>
> ...Don't lose your head, Ain.
>
> (Jp. literally something like: What are you [saying] so casually...?)